HAS MY SUPPORT OF WEBSLEUTHS.COM BEEN A MISTAKE?

websleuthsOver the years, I have always supported Trica Griffith and of Websleuths. This support has been in spite of being banned from that Forum since 2008. I have supported the notion that it is the right as the owner of that website, to decide who and who not to allow to participate actively within the various topic areas a blog or forum.

In light of recent comments appearing on this blog, I have to reassess my support of Websleuths and it’s owner Trica Griffith. The main reason is MONEY. I have been aware of rumors for quite some time that Websleuths has been suffering from a severe cash shortage and as a result, loans from individuals have been sought from some of the senior members. It has been alleged that these loans have gone unpaid.

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The one comment below is but one of several that have been posted here by those who have expressed their individual concerns about what has been going on at Websleuths:

This is Raine1212, The reason behind this little statement is this. I am sick to death of being accused of being in cahoots with Tricia of Webslueths and involved with her Radio Show. Also, i would like to state I am not involved with Tricia Griffith of Websleuths nor is Tricia involved with my new forum.

The fact is it was my decision to leave Websleuths. I was not banned or demoted as some claim. The reason I left is personal, however I think it is important to clear up any misconceptions, and have decided to share my reasons with you.

1. Tricia knew what I was going to say that night on her Radio show, Tricia is the one that threw me under the bus and pretended she did not know.
Tricia is the one that had me contact Mark Redwine so he would come on her show to begin with. She asked me to work my magic to get Mr. Redwine on her show.

2. February of this year Tricia needed money, and told me that it was to help with the server fee, and for private bills and such.

Stupidly I thought we were best friends, Boy was I fooled to find out that I was being used for money and that is how I feel now. Total amount I gave to Tricia was around $3,000.00 or so. I have been promised for 3 weeks I would be receiving a check,I have not. I am supposed to get a check today for what amount I do not know.
After I left another site I received alot of calls from Tricia asking me have I talked with Sosueme or any one about the money.

Frustrated and upset over being used and thrown under a bus so she could look good, I finally went to sosueme at Websleuths.. I have been assured that action will be taken, what that is I am not sure, but I do trust that now it will be handled. Sosueme has been wonderful and appreciative and very helpful to me, I do now understand why Tricia only wanted me to contact her about problems when I was a mod, she never wanted any of this to get out. This make total sense now.

So raine1212 was used by what she thought was a true friend. True Friends do not throw friends under a bus to make themselves look good or get rating for the Radio shows. I have the supporting documents to back up all the money. So believe what you may, but always make sure a true friend is a friend. I also feel that others may be in the same situation as I am. That is another reason I have decided to share this information. I hope that reading this gives others the courage to come forward if they feel they have been taken advantage of in this way.

Raine1212

There have been some well known on line personalities leave the internet and the sole reason for doing so has been because of concerns over money.

One well known new media broadcaster made a public announcement that his departure from broadcasting was due to a dispute with the service provider over revenue. He felt that he was not making enough money.

Up until the time he made that announcement, I was not aware that he was using his webstreaming show to earn a living.

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Make no mistake, I have no problem with people making money off of what they do on the internet. I am not one of those people who go around and say that people should not make money discussing certain topics on the internet.

The mainstream media does this on a daily basis. What does concern me is how these personalities handle situations where their cash flow does not meet their income expectations or falls below what is needed to cover their overhead.

All businesses operate on a cost to profit ratio. A business owner must be aware of their expenses and have enough of a cash flow to cover them.

What seems to be the problem with Websleuth’s, however, is that the owner, Trica Griffith, has elected to borrow the operating capitol from friends and associates rather than from more conventional sources such as a financial institution.

There is nothing wrong with doing so as long as it is intended that the funds be repaid according to whatever agreement was entered into when the loan was made.

In this rather extended economic crises, it is not uncommon for people to seek out friends and associates for loans to get them through a bad financial cycle in an effort to save their business.

The problem with doing so, however, is not only to risk the obvious legal ramifications, but to also risk the costs of close friendships and long standing damages to ones reputation.

This seems to be the risk that Trica Griffiths has taken and the situation she now finds herself in.

Stay tuned

MURT

12 Comments

  • I don’t know about anyone else, but it would seem to me that if your website is unaffordable and so is your life style.. then u change a few things before u try to take money from others. I have a major issue with all of the donations of late, and now borrowing money from members. People.. Forums on the web are free.. U don’t need a website to obtain a forum. Anyone who tells u they do is lying to you. Now, if by chance Tricia has an account with blogger news radio, she has a monthly fee to pay, if she didn’t or doesn’t have sponsors to pay the bill, then shut the thing off. Thats my opinion. As far as those who put the money out.. I ask, haven’t u guys figured it out yet.. There is no return coming. There never was.. there never will be..

    • I know Levi says:

      Levi was unable to pay the fees for blogtalkradio and he had his leased vehicle repocessed because he couldn’t make his payments. I heard he had a collection agency after him as well!!!!!!! Loser. He and Tricia are perfect for each other. Hate them!!

      Since he rarely appears on HLN he has no other source of income.

      I hate Levi. Hate him and hope you’d investigate him Murt.

      • I am not so much concerned about Levi’s financial affairs as I am in his mocking of those who were concerned about the fate of missing children. I was also unaware that there were fees attached to his show on Blogtalk. I have an account there and there are no fees that I am aware of. I had not decided to go ahead with a show there due to a lack of an audience and their rigid format structure. There are no fee alternatives that he could explore if he wanted to continue to be in new media.

        MURT

  • Pixie says:

    Please understand this is not about WS, there is another co- owner who is going to take action and stop Tricia from doing this. WS is wonderful, one bad apple does not ruin the bushel. Remove the bad apple is what you do. WS does great work and has great members. this is about Tricia and what she is doing not WS. If anyone has given Tricia money I encourage them to contact the other owner.

    Pixie

  • Pixie says:

    Please also leave Levi out of this I am not sure he is aware of what has happened.

    Pixie

    • I was not aware that I coupled Levi into the Websleuth situation. I did not even use his name in the article. What I did state is that a broadcaster using Blogtalk had made a public announcement as to why he discontinued using that service to conduct his webcasts. If he did not want that information known, he should not have gone public with it.

      MURT

  • Pixie says:

    Murt that was not directed at your comment dear.

  • Pixiedust: Why would you lend money to a “friend” and then trash her for not paying you back right away…because she did pay you back, correct? Yet you still go on trashing her. Does lending a “friend” money give you or anyone else, Murt, the right to ruin their reputation and the reputation of the business she’s trying to keep afloat? If you lent her the money out of the goodness of your heart to help her with her business, why do this? Were you forced at gunpoint to lend her the money? From what I can see, no one else has had the same problem with her – or maybe they have, but aren’t so desperate for attention they would make themselves look needy and vindictive by making pathetic posts about it. “Friends” don’t treat “friends” this way – my guess is you were never a friend in the first place. I’ve known Tricia for 20 years – in those 20 years we’ve helped each other out, sometimes repayment is just knowing your friend got out of a bind and she would do the same for you if she could. Tricia would never in a million years do this to you or anyone else she considers a friend, maybe that’s why she’s taken advantage of so often. I find the people who trash her on the Internet are usually mad because they’ve been kicked off her forum – I don’t know if that’s the case here, but it seems to fit the pattern.

    • I am allowing the debate here and am not taking sides. Even though I am banned from Websleuths, I am not taking sides here. It was something that was brought to my attention through comments here and elsewhere that I decided to write about. Everyone is free to judge Trica as they see fit.

      My concern when it comes to supporting Websleuths comes from many reports of questionable actions regarding its operation. This sort of thing is common as I have been the target of similar accusations. It seems to be a fact of life when running a blog or webcast that people are going to attack you. It then comes down to who is going to go against you and who will come to your defense.

      MURT

      • The “friend” distinction is what bothers me – friends don’t air a friend’s dirty laundry on the Internet. Pixie was never a friend, Pixie lent Tricia money to get in good with her and when it went South, she took to the Internet. There’s no excuse for trashing someone you purportedly cared so much about you lent them a large sum of money. It takes a low individual. It all just sounds like sour grapes to me – even the concern about Websleuths – running a forum that large is not easy OR cheap, and until you’ve run one, I suggest withholding judgment. Sue is a big girl and a smart cookie, I’ll bet she can handle it. (I use “you” in general terms)

  • FrankyFours says:

    Yes, I share the concerns regarding “friendship” here. I would never drag one of my friend’s good name through the mud like this for money. For money? Incomprehensible. If you ask me, Pixie needs to think long and hard about what this is REALLY about for her. I feel the same might be said about many others who are supporting Sue and continuing to hint at all the wonderfully soud reasons they have for doing so.

    I repeat my objection to the very foundation of this mess. If you choose to loan money to a friend, then you know very well there may be hard feelings down the line, whether you have a contract or not. And if repayment is not forthcoming, the last thing in the world I can imagine is wandering out onto the Internet and making a public spectacle of myself and my “friend” so that the world can see what a petty person I really am and how little I seem to value “friendship”. I for one would like Pixie to stop throwing that word around so casually, as with friends like her, you certainly don’t need enemies.

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