#RAPEVERIFIED

janewaySometimes when reading twitter posts I come across the some of strangest arguments that go on there . This one takes the cake. It seems there is some kind of “man’s rights” twitter account where the person fights what he feels are men haters.

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As a male, one might think that I would gravitate towards such a site since there seems to be a lot of man hating going on lately.

What peaked my interest was this twitter post in particular.

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I then decided to look further into the conversation to see what the heck this was all about and came across this #rapeverification issue.rv3

I immediately picked up on the name of Lucy Boryer as she played a character on Star Trek which is a show that I am a fan of.

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Anyhow, Lucy has spoken about her being a rape survivor. The owner of the “man’s rights” twitter site started a conversation with Lucy about the subject and others related with rape issues. Somewhere along the lines, he contacted Lucy’s professional manager to find out if Judy was the REAL Judy and that the twitter account was actually hers and not something set up by a fan or someone else.

The whole situation has turned into a “he said she said” as she and others are claiming that the male rights advocate was trying to verify that Lucy was raped and the advocate said that he was only trying to verify that she is who she claims to be and that there was no rape verification attempt.rv2

I am not certain what the true story is here. What I do know is that Rape is a touchy issue. I also know that sometimes one might have been innocently trying to confirm certain information but went around it in a bad way.rv1

There are a couple of factors to take into consideration here. First of all, the actresses twitter account is NOT verified. This is what might have triggered the whole verification fiasco. It might be a good idea for Lucy to go through the Twitter verification process so that someone else does not put up some kind of fan or impersonator twitter page.

The next issue was that the actress put the contact information for her manager on her twitter account. It seems that there is a website dedicated to all things entertainment and there is also a link to her manager’s e-mail address.

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This is how the advocate was able to contact the actresses manager and have the alleged conversation. I am surprised that the manager has not been flooded with all sorts of fan mail about the actress as this is a large and publicly accessible website.

It appears that some basic security steps on the part of the actress might be in order.

The advocate might want to learn from this as well. He went too far in trying to come to the truth about either the rape or the identity of the person he was talking to. He should use better judgement in the future.

Stay tuned

MURT

8 Comments

  • You said, “The owner of the “man’s rights” twitter site started a conversation with Judy about the subject and others related with rape issues.”

    This is inaccurate. I engaged other people. She approached and retweeted me. I’m not opposed to that, but make it clear here: it was she who initiated contact. Additionally, it was she who pointed to IMDB when I started asking about her identity.

    https://twitter.com/mensrightsrdt/status/317075827558871041 (see that she retweeted.)

    http://i.imgur.com/PiaNBLN.png

    https://twitter.com/mensrightsrdt/status/317518618772529153

    • furthermore, she is attempting to use this event in an attempt to discredit me:

      http://i.imgur.com/6Fdntix.png (see her tweet at the top of the image.)

      All in all, though, I appreciate your attempt to report this in an even-handed fashion. In my first email to her manager, I could have related the claims in a less terse way, but the claims were already out there (and by her hand) and her manager surely would have seen them when (he/she) looked at the account.

      • One of the reasons I decided to write on this topic is that there is a group of bloggers following a gang rape case out of Steubenville, Ohio. The issue of Rape and doubting those who claim to be rape survivors came up. When I saw the dispute between you and Judy, I realized that this is a more common problem then I had thought.

        Since I came into your conversation with Judy, I cannot accurately assess who is right or wrong. I saw errors by both sides. On her side was the lax in security she had by allowing the contact information for her manager to be placed on what is obviously a fan site. I am surprised that she is not burdened with excessive fan mail.

        I know quite a few prominent people in the entertainment industry and most of them take elaborate steps to make certain that an incident such as what happened between the two of you would not happen.
        What I do take issue with is the crude remark you made about her career. I can understand that you were upset with the whole situation and can understand the remark. I just wish you had not made it.

        I can only suggest that in the future, regardless of who starts the conversation, you tread lightly when it comes to the issue of rape and trying to verify who is who. Women are highly sensitive with this issue and you are playing with dynamite.
        MURT

      • You said, ” On her side was the lax in security she had by allowing the contact information for her manager to be placed on what is obviously a fan site. I am surprised that she is not burdened with excessive fan mail. ”

        She linked her data, by her own free will, and SHE ASKED ME about verifying it. see image 4 here: http://imgur.com//a/7geVd.

  • ” Women are highly sensitive with this issue and you are playing with dynamite.”

    Different people are highly sensitive with a lot of things. She asked me about verifying her account. She linked her data, by her own free will, and SHE ASKED ME about verifying it. see image 4 here: http://imgur.com//a/7geVd.

    btw I referenced #Steubenville here http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/legitimate-rape-advocacy-and-censorship/

  • Well here is a bit of info that might lead to a resolve on real or not real.. I ran across a person on twitter that was busy trying to validate a well known persons twitter account. And he explained that if this well known person was who they claimed to be, that Twitter could validate their account.
    So, take a trip down Twitter lane and accounts of well known people, the FBI and thousands others, all have these pretty little blue checks on them. Those accounts as per twitter are verified. Which means these people are whom they claim to be.

    • Getting a verified account on Twitter is not an easy process. They come to you to verify rather than you going to them. This is why impersonation on Twitter is so widespread. The general public cannot have their own accounts verified. This is one of many weaknesses of Twitter as well as other social media sites. The process for finding out who is real and who is not is impaired by the lax in security measures these services have in place.

      This is why most content on the internet cannot be trusted. Everything can be and is faked. That is the truth of things. The problem is that there are far to many gullible people out there that do not understand the extremes some will go to to create fraudulent content and how easy it is to create genuine looking and professional looking counterfeit material.
      This ability goes across the entire spectrum of audio, video and written media. Anything and everything can be faked and has been faked. Impersonator accounts of all types exist. Fake blogs have been created. It goes on and on. It is getting to where even the experts and law enforcement have a hard time determining what is genuine and what is not.

      It is then left up to the individual and their own instincts to determine for themselves what is and is not real or who is and is not who they say they are.
      MURT

    • She linked her data, by her own free will, and SHE ASKED ME about verifying it. see image 4 here: http://imgur.com//a/7geVd.

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